Showing posts with label 401k. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 401k. Show all posts

Sunday, June 24, 2007

401K

Jeremy at genxfinance posted a great article titled:

Your 401(k) is Not a Savings Account.


He writes: What is probably (shocking) is that many (people) looking to take money out of their retirement plan only need a small amount (generally under $1,000) to cover some unexpected expenses and I’ve seen people take out $500 loans on three year terms.


Here at worst company, this is not shocking at all, it is the norm. So is filing for bankruptcy. They also live not from paycheck to paycheck but from this paycheck to the one after that. The not so funny part about this is that in my office we have 211 non-management employees (33 men/178 women) with an average of 17 years of service and a base pay of approximately $50,000. I don’t the statistics regarding number of children, household income, etc. I’d be interested to know what the average dollar amount of savings is. I’d bet it’s very very low. I don’t know if this is the norm for Michigan or nationwide. Most people here who talk about their finances admit to being at least one payment behind on rent and/or car payments.


Jeremy further writes: Loans should be your last resort. If your plan allows you to take a loan it should be treated as a last resort. Some people argue that tapping into your 401(k) isn’t all that bad of an idea because it is your money and you are simply paying yourself back the interest.


I’ve never really understood their rational of “I’m borrowing from myself”. My ex-boyfriend would borrow against his and spout this as his justification. The amounts he borrowed would be small (less than $1,000) and his payback would be around $15. Who spreads out $1,000 over 5 years? At least if he would have borrowed from the credit union the payment would have been higher and forced him to pay it back sooner and build good credit. He never learned NOT to get into trouble in the first place which would have gone a long way in itself. (by the way within a year of our breakup, he filed for bankruptcy)

Actually this is what I’ve noticed about most of the people at work. They run up bills, borrow from their 401(k) or file bankruptcy then in a few months are back in the same boat again.

Some of the exact same people who were claiming to wanting to purchase a house (or buy a car or go on a fab vacation) still have the same “goal” 5 years later. They haven’t made any changes to their spending/saving to actually achieve their “goals”.

Personally, I have my contributions to my 401(k) automatically deducted and I glance at my quarterly statements. I have a general idea of how much money is in my account but I don’t consider it part of current assets. It is strictly for retirement (which I hope to be in 6 years when I’m 45). I suppose if something dreadful was to happen and I absolutely had to use the money I would but it would have to be a catastrophic event.

Sunday

$1.75 pop/snacks at work (you can always tell when it's time to go to the store)

Saturday

$18.00 golf--9 holes Hankerd Hills

$11.00 dinner

Friday

$788 concrete steps

Friday, April 6, 2007

Investments

I updated my stock holdings today. When the statements come in, I put them in pile next to the computer and once in a (great) while, I look them over, then file them away.

Ford, 105.88 shares = $848.10
Visteon, 40.55 shares = $355.23
Pepsi, 42.97 shares = $2,736.62
Harley-Davidson, 110.79 shares = $6,819.94
Yum!, 14.13 shares = $831.12
CMS, 228.73 shares = $4,149.07
AT&T, 130.91 shares = $5,140.92

401K as of 12/31/06 = $93,067.94

IRA's
Mid Cap Growth = $35,177.97
Blue Chip Growth = $15,115.69

Looking over the IRA statements it looks like I didn't max out my investments for 2006. I had even asked when I called to reset my password for their website. I could have used the $2,000 I put in for 2007 for 2006 and been up-to-date. Oh well, good thing I found out now instead of after the 15th! Then I would have really been upset. I wonder if I can charge it? Then I can get my bonus points, order a withdrawal from the credit union and make the payment when the check gets here on Monday. If not, I have to go to Target so I'll be on that side of town, I can just get the withdrawal myself and mail it today.

Update: Hmm, evidently I have too much money to manage alone. Hee. I called T.Rowe Price about my IRA contributions. Evidently, in January of this year I sent $2,000 in for 2006 then in March I sent in $2,000 for 2007. At first I really thought that they had credited someone else's money to my account, but I was wrong. I looked in my checkbook and there it was. How I forgot about that, I don't know, but I did. So 2006 is fully funded, and 2007 is 1/2 done. I should be able to get the other 1/2 invested by May.

I'm still waiting for a callback from the insurance adjustor. I already paid $1,700 for the work and charged the materials, they came up close to $1,500. I'm thinking maybe she's on vacation because of Easter. If I don't hear from her today, I'll call again on Monday. My checking account is looking a bit pathetic after all the pay outs.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007

401K

Should you borrow from your 401K?

Here's a good article, along with a decision chart, at Smartmoney.

Personally, unless I desperately needed the money, and couldn't get it anywhere else, I wouldn't ever consider taking my 401K money. I get my statements and look at them, but I don't think of it as money that is available to me.

I know that girls at work take money from theirs for all kinds of reasons. Vacations, Christmas spending, new cars and debt. I'd rather just put off on those things and save up for them.

The article talks about the main reason, other than need, that I don't borrow and that's loss of compounding. By just leaving my money alone it grows all on it's own.

I think we get a contract raise next month so I'll have to check then and see if that will bump me up to the next increment of dollar amount that the company matches. There are still a bunch of people at work that don't put money into the 401K, I'm not sure why not. The company matches 80% in stock and I look at it as part of my weekly pay.


$30 snow shoveling
15 doctor co-pay

Monday, January 15, 2007

401K

401K

Should you participate? Well if your company matches any of your deposits, of course. To me it's like a raise, it's definitely part of the benefits of my job. My company matches 80%. That's damn good in my opinion. I've not heard of another company that meets or beats it. Of course I've not really researched it. Just talked to people. There is a max of I think $50 a week I can put in that they match but then they give me $40 that's a dollar an hour raise. Actually the $50 is pre-tax so it probably comes out to more than a dollar an hour but I'm not savvy (I would say smart, but I am smart just lazy and not very Google-fu) enough to figure it out.




$2,000.00 IRA deposit
667.00 Property taxes
120.00 Comtronics
60.00 Maid